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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 36 points 6 days ago (6 children)

So this technically means that Iran won, right?

[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 days ago

Who knows. The usa is not trustworthy

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

No, its not victory, its just them getting whatever they want and us giving it to them in order to make the killing stop.

[–] mech@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago

That sounds a lot like a won war.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't give a shit about the killing, what he want is for the oil prices to go down again.
But he can only achieve that by accepting that he lost, and that's the part he doesn't like.
For Trump it's always about winning, he can't stand to look like a loser. If he can make it look like a win, and get the oil prices down, then he will accept a deal. But it's very hard to see what such a deal could be?

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

The killing isn't going well for him, makes him look weak. He cares. Oil prices aren't coming down before the election. One of the first things Iran's current regime on the world stage did was ratfuck a US president by pulling some shit like this. They are aware.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

If the leaked details are remotely accurate (they're consistent with previous leaked drafts, so they do sound credible) this is a total capitulation on the part of the United States.

I wouldn't consider it a win if they get paid merely the damages caused - they did lose lives after all. But also, if true, Magastan didn't win anything.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Art of the Deal.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago

considering they dint have any major losess despite all those airstrikes.