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Its not stealing your ideas if they cite you Yud, they just draw different conclusions

One of the many issues autodidacts face is that they never have to deal with undergrads sitting in a room with them for hours listening to them explain things in exhaustive detail and then still somehow spend their final writing assignment completely missing the goddamn point.

It builds character, I assume.

• "a giant rich organization": they claim to have directed over 7 billion in grants since 2014, so this actually seems like a fair comment?

• "stole some of my ideas": they've shown interest in AI stuff, including Eliezer's ideas, they just have longer (but still pretty fantastical, like AGI by 2050) timelines for stuff like AGI and that influences their funding priorities in a way Eliezer disagrees with

• "ignored everything I said about what not to do": eh, Eliezer has said a lot of things, they probably didn't follow his advice exactly

• "and are going around telling people I made them do it": I've seen a few people here and there in various rationalist-adjacent circles blame Eliezer for helping OpenAI network and get started and thereby kindle the very doom he warned about, so. It seems plausible some of them were connected to coefficient giving?

Its not stealing your ideas if they cite you Yud, they just draw different conclusions

That sounds like the normal academic process, which Eliezer neither understands nor appreciates.

Yud has said he got bored with LessWrong

Yeah, him gradually losing interest in LessWrong in the mid 2010s created room for SSC to grow in popularity. Also, that would have been around the time it became apparent Eliezer had been very wrong about neural networks, so we missed the chance to see Eliezer actually have to overcome biases and admit he was wrong in a non-self-aggrandizing way. (Eliezer has admitted he was wrong before, but only in ways that made his next idea even more important, see his progression from nanotech to coding a seed AI in Lisp to solving AI safety).

Yeah, the group sex.

He's just an intellectual coward, he didn't even own up to the basilisk despite his whole decision theorist phase clearly being about trying to cook up a convincing cope for it.

It's really hard to say because Yud's being unnecessarily cryptic. Also, I think the "going around telling people I made them do it" might be a reference to the Zizians, which is what he's describing in the precending sentence. I am not aware that anyone from any rich organization has said anything like that about Yudkowsky, but who knows what they might be telling people behind the scenes.

If it had been only a year they’ve been saying that, I might almost buy the logic. But it has been 4 years since Chat-GPT came out and they’ve been making the same promises the entire time.

4 years and more money has been spent on AI than anything else in human history outside of war.

Doubt it, considering the difference between high end escort sex workers and survival/low end sex workers.