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[–] SirW00talot@lemmy.world 90 points 2 weeks ago (29 children)

Ah it's voter disenfranchisement season here comes the "don't vote" machine

[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's not "don't vote", it's "don't be fooled into high expectations for the Party of Betraying the Left"

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

How about we call it the do something real machine.

Also vote, but please please please understand how little impact that has in most ridings compared to direct action.

Do you know who your reps are now? Are you excited about them? At municipal, state, and federal levels? If not then you need to be making noise until you're provided with better choices.

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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 47 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Is this more 'both sides the same' nonsense?

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Do we think dems will save us? Let's say a huge blue wave happens. A Democrat wins every election for the next 2 years. What would they do?

What have they done so far? Ofc I'll vote dem but thinking they will be the ones to save us will only lead to disappointment.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I think it's not that "the dems" will save us, but that the structural flaws of our system mean that progressives getting into power at the federal level need to do so by winning democrat primaries.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

That's fair, probably the most effective course of action at the moment. That's how the Leaders We Deserve PAC is operating I believe. Still within the two party system getting people to vote and running as democrats.

I guess when I say "dems" I mean "establishment democrats". Like Biden, Kamala, Clinton etc.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nope, unless we get involved in the primaries and push for proper progressives like Mamdani. Candidates without AIPAC or super PAC money. unless we vote for them in the primaries, then dems will just keep screwing us.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

They will keep everything that Trump has implemented in place, the 1% will continue to get richer while we get poorer. We will still be at a constant state of war. Like Biden and politicians have said throughout time, nothing will fundamentally change

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The ACA was better than nothing

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was, still is. I never liked the argument "well it could be worse" when things should be better.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 12 points 2 weeks ago
[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Things can't get better until you realize you are not the good guys

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[–] KiwiTheFlightless@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

And why am I getting pickpocketed half a world away... I don't even watch the puppet show...

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's something that yanks can't understand

We despise them because they export their stupidity

All their wars, military and cultural are inflicted on the rest of the world whether we like it or not

Not to mention the fact that the cunts don't seem to understand there's an entire world outside of their little shithole

My fiancée is American, and she can't stand the place

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[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This, but it's raping children and bombing innocents

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

While also stealing money

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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago
[–] hobovision@mander.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

An elephant and a donkey fight in a puppet show and the crowd cheers for one or the other because one of them is going to decide how good your future is. And when people start to notice their life is getting harder for working people most of the time, they're told they can stop the decline by cheering louder for the puppet that's not currently in power.

The reality today is one of those puppets is going to be in control. Would you like the one that tries to clean the wounds and put on bandaids or the one that keeps playing with knives?

You can sit at the puppet show quietly, but whether or not you cheer, they're going to pick a winner. If you want to leave this circus you better hope the puppet that is open to the idea of changing how we pick a winner starts winning a lot.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you are paying attention none of our lives are getting easier. The one you are trying to claim is applying bandaids and attending the wound are the ones that caused the cut.

You don’t stick a knife in a man’s back 9 inches and pull it out 6 inches and say you are making progress. If you stick a knife in my back 9 inches and pull it out 6 inches, there’s no progress. If you pull it out all the way, then that’s still not progress. Progress is healing the wound that the blow made. And they haven’t pulled the knife out, much less healed the wound. They won’t even admit the knife is there

Malcolm X

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't want to cheer harder? What are you trying to do? Hurt small businesses?

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 8 points 2 weeks ago

You didn't suck off the pickpocket hard enough so its your fault the other pick pocket stabbed you

[–] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago

And even if we don't go to the puppet show, we still get pickpocketed.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago

yeah it's a divide a conquer scheme

The term divide and conquer in politics refers to an entity gaining and maintaining political power by using divisive measures.[1] This includes the exploitation of existing divisions within a political group by its political opponents, and also the deliberate creation or strengthening of such divisions.[2][3]

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah they should make a drawing out of this, make sure you clearly label each component of the drawing so you don't leave any doubt about the message. /s

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[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

No matter how they dumb it down, americans still won't get it.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

you know, the more divisive politics is, the more it benefits those in power. because you continue to support your team, meanwhile the other people support the other team. this ensures that all politicians are strongly supported by someone. all the politicians need to do is to pretend to fight each other, meanwhile they actually don't. they just have to pretend to fight each other sothat you continue to support them against the so-called "enemy".

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What gets me is how much a Democrat supporter will argue circular logic with you to the ends of the Earth. Not because your vote matters, but their narrative does. I live in a deep red state, not single vote of mine has mattered from local to national elections but boy do neo-liberals try to get me to believe the blue lie.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (70 children)

Not sure what the lie is. They're better, but not great. Pretty simple really. But if you don't matter then why are you getting involved in any political discussion?

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

The lie is that Democrats are the better choice. They have you locked up and kept lockup in a duopoly that represents the 1% while shitting on the working class. But Democrats are thankful that they at least get some blue shit.

There are politics outside of that duopoly which is why that their opinion and everyone else's opinion politically matters

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Too smart for the people who need to understand it I fear.

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