Homie wants to talk cool while we all watched him launch missiles at school busses. Let's not act like US Presidents haven't been war criminals for over a decade.
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Since I was ten or so every president has crossed that line.
Were you born in 1850?
You got me. I'm a vampire. I feed on snark though.
Damn you must be extremely obese having a Lemmy account.
You should know that you are currently orbiting me.
Did Obama use military Ops that killed innocent people? Yes.
Is Obama still infinitely better as a president and human versus the Cheeto Chimp? Yes.
Competence and responsibility mean nothing to republicans. Words mean nothing to them. They have no consistent beliefs and their lives are controlled by their erratic emotions and bigoted preconceptions.
Society cannot function while people like that have any control over anything, and in the USA they are disproportionately represented in our government.
It is honestly pretty funny, because Obama's Iran deal was too complicated a topic for the average American to understand or form an independent opinion on, so Trump came in and criticized it, painting it in oversimplified terms, and it worked because Americans are not an intellectual people (to put it mildly) and also didn't care.
Then he does this huge unforced error, sends gas prices skyrocketing, suddenly Americans actually start caring while Trump's messaging is completely unfocused and all over the place, and the old deal, previously a nuanced compromise, suddenly looks fantastic in comparison.
Yeah, Obama sucks, but you gotta appreciate the schadenfreude and karma of watching the right humiliate themselves and collapse their own narrative entirely by their own actions.
Your first paragraph makes the assumption that the American people are/were on board with what is happening with Iran. Trump never attempted to get the population to support his actions. It's deeply unpopular with his base and liberals alike.
With project 2025 they seized all levers of control. Checks and balances, if they ever existed, are all but gone. Seems the courts are the only thing left that produce any pushback and that is an intentionally slow process vs the move fast and break things actions of Trump.
He doesn't care about his approval ratings, and congress isn't doing their job. Huge amounts of aipac money are being pumped into all levels of government. Disinformation campaigns from 24/7 news stations keep the normies divided. Bot farms are further manipulating the online narrative using ai.
The whole thing is fucked, but it's a little more nuanced than the general population not understanding (or frankly wanting to understand) the JCPOA.
Our government has basically been overthrown, and other than protests or violence, there is nothing we can do to stop it until November. We don't have a viable mechanism to eject Trump in the meantime, and he's going to continue stacking the deck in his favor with gerrymandering and other sketchy shit until then.
Turns out money and power runs things, and that doesn't produce the best outcomes.
The whole thing is fucked, but it’s a little more nuanced than the general population not understanding (or frankly wanting to understand) the JCPOA.
But I'm not talking about "the whole thing," I'm talking about this specific thing.
brother, we're so beyond this type of posting. congratulations: you've found a crumb of smugness amongst the wreckage of our present lives.
congratulations: you’ve found a crumb of smugness amongst the wreckage of our present lives.
Thank you. Without crumbs I'd starve.
I'm not sure when we moved beyond being able to make fun of reactionaries for creating problems for themselves, Wily Coyote style, but I'm not sure we should've left.
fuck u, we have dozens of intellectuals! DOZEENNNS!!!
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Obama pulled it off because Iran had significant geopolitical leverage and he wasn't dumb enough to confront them with direct escalatory military action (he still used Stuxnet) like Trump was.
He had no issues carpet bombing Afghanistan because they didn't have any military power that could oppose the USA.
Even for Trump, the real deviation from the standard Uncle Sam treatment was this year's crapshow. Last year's operation midnight hammer could have happened under any president for the past 3 decades and no one would've blinked an eye.
Also, "everyone" is conveniently ignoring that invading and bombing iran has been a bipartisan wet dream since the islamic revolution took place. I assume almost every american politician is probably gooning every day to the images of burned bodies tbh
What? Soft power? Negotiation? Breaking bread with our (fr)enemies? Nah, we don't do that here. Besides, how else are people going to know that we're big, tough, and strong? /s
"Everyone has a plan until they're punched in the face."
Corollary: Nobody has a plan when punching people in the face doesn't work.
we used to be so bug and strong we didn't have to punch people in the face dammit
also i'm keeping it
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Yes but he's a black democrat so it doesn't matter
Yes, that's because Obama had a fucking healthy brain and body.
Trump is demented and dying in front of us.
Great job, Republicans. You owned your own country and deteriorated the world (which you and everyone you love live in) in order to own the libs.
Fucking goddamn idiotic numbskulled dumbasses. Every fucking one of them. Absolutely braindead, worm-brained, self-destructive assholes. I genuinely hope history destroys every one of them.
I'll never forget, will you?
Republicans have absolutely no clue how the past few months damaged America's reputation in the world. Especially in Arabic countries and Europe the trust in America has gone from an already low level to absolute zero. Every country which isn't absolutely braindead tries to cut ties with the US as fast as possible. This is a loss of soft power which made the US dominate the world and might never be repairable even with a sane president. America's decline is accelerating because of that down the line, long after Trump has left this world.
Is he allowed to speak the Truth? Cant they indict him some charges or something?
Too bad he didn't cause any meaningful change to the DNC and immediately dissappeared after his term letting the party flounder without a real direction. We're still feeling the effects of his lack of leadership. He was the disruption candidate that forgot to disrupt.
He's also been happy to help rehabilitate bush and is now being pro republicans staying around as a party.
Hell in office he was more than happy to continue bushs programs and agendas
What was he supposed to do? He gave us 8 years of competent leadership. One deserves retirement.
Make meaningful change in the DNC. You know, like my comment said. Look what Trump did to the RNC. He completely reshaped that party. Obama left it floundering so he can make money giving speeches.
I feel like you're giving WAY too much credit to Trump. Did Trump change the RNC? Or was he just the catalyst that allowed the RNC to become what they always wanted to become? All he did was rally the base like no other politician on either side really has. The RNC just saw that as an opportunity.
He probably disappeared because the DNC was still propping up Hillary Clinton and she was running the show. Remember 2008 was supposed to be Hillary’s year, Obama came out of nowhere during the primaries, he was just a one term senator. So the DNC and Hillary probably felt that Obama swiped the presidential seat from under their nose. Obama gave Hillary Secretary of State as a peace offering, but probably wasn’t enough for the DNC and Hillary. I doubt he could have pushed through any meaningfully change when the DNC was adamant on getting Hillary in office.
All because a pedophile doesn't like us talking about how gross and disgusting he is, and that he's a rapist and pedophile.
All these people died for that.